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  New rules for inactive ones?

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have the rules changed as far as disfellowshipping inactive ones when it's clear they are engaged in "wrongdoing?".

  i have a cousin in seattle who was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago or so and then went through the process of being reinstated (took only 6 months) and then proceeded to fade and do nothing regarding the jw's .

  fast forward to today and now she's had a baby out of wedlock and the uber jw elder father and mother are all on board somehow.

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  I have seen similar in the past. I think it often comes down to local elders in each congregation.

  Case 1: I know of a brother who was presiding overseer whose daughter married outside of the "truth", and who paid for the honeymoon. Based on the elder's book this would have called his qualifications into question. But because he was pally with the circuit overseer nothing happened.

  Fast forward to a year or so ago. The previous elder is no longer the presiding overseer because of age and ill health. Another elder in the same congregation let his daughter marry a man she met at work. Resulting in a committee being formed and his family being investigated, and restrictions placed on them, and the elder being demoted down to a ministerial servant.

  Another case: two single baptised people came forward and admitted to "heavy petting" during dating. They were in 2 different congregations. Congregation 1 restricted their publisher for 6 months. Congregation 2 disfellowshipped their publisher. Both said the same story. Different elders with separate personalities and different perceptions. Oh and by the way, at the time, the congregation that disfellowshipped their publisher was run by the elder whose story began this post!
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  List of Things We Were NOT Allowed To Do as JW's

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's my list of jw no-no's as i recall: .

  1. no giving or accepting valentine candy for students.

  2. no going to home coming football games.

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  3, 4, 17, 19. We were able to do these 4 things.

  Guess some areas were stricter than others.
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  CSA and the UK Catholic Church.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the comments underneath the article are almost as interesting as the article.. .

  https://mercatornet.com/secrecy-confession-england-wales/81615/.

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  The comments underneath the article are almost as interesting as the article.

  https://mercatornet.com/secrecy-confession-england-wales/81615/
  
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  Russia's War on JWs and other Cults Intensifies.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. current

  what this guy publicises many russians will believe is solid truth.. i wouldn't want to be a jw in the former ussr countries these days.. https://bitterwinter.org/russia-sensational-revelations-jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-an-anti-putin-coup/.

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  What this guy publicises many Russians will believe is solid truth.

  I wouldn't want to be a JW in the former USSR countries these days.

  https://bitterwinter.org/russia-sensational-revelations-jehovahs-witnesses-prepare-an-anti-putin-coup/
  
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  Apostate Hunter?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard of this jw guy?.

  apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?

  ) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.

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  Has anyone heard of this JW guy?

  Apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".

  To know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the GB's direction not to do so. Is he just a crank or a high ranking WT stooge in disguise? Clearly by his pen name he must think he is better than everyone else!!

  Amazon booklist - TrueTom vs the Apostates! https://amzn.eu/d/hEexSLp

  
  
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  Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving

  by wannaexit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.

  here is another story:.

  https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.

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  The bother is that the R&F are told that they must follow the advice given to them by their local elders without question. "The elders told me not to report it and bring reproach upon the Organisation."

  The abused children are confronted by a 3 man tribunal (always males) who have no training in counseling or how to talk to a trauma sufferer - other than maybe a 40 minute talk in the middle of an elder's school that they probably slept through. And the accredited qualifications of the judicial committee members? Lol. Probably a window washer, a car mechanic, and a man who spends his days knocking on doors and getting them slammed in his face full-time!

  Is it any wonder that secular authorities are aghast when they discover the inner workings of a congregation!? And just how blind the org is to its own obvious failings.
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  Sexual abuse and Jehovah's witnesses- the gift that keep on giving

  by wannaexit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there seems to be no end to the many jw's who sexually abused minors.

  here is another story:.

  https://www.inquirer.com/news/pa-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-assault-attorney-general-shapiro-20221027.html.

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  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/four-jehovah-s-witnesses-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-19-children-across-pennsylvania/ar-AA13rFy6
  
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  In depth article

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://crosscut.com/news/2022/10/jehovahs-witness-church-covered-child-sex-abuse-survivors-say.

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  https://crosscut.com/news/2022/10/jehovahs-witness-church-covered-child-sex-abuse-survivors-say
  
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  When The SHTF.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. current

  we have several non-jdub friends who are busy stockpiling foods and goods for the impending societal collapse.

  some are happy enough to be called preppers, others are not, but say that looking at the deteriorating condition of the world that it's only a matter of time before the shtf and they want to be prepared to protect themselves and their families when it happens.. contrast that to the jdubs who are actively telling people that the end of the world is coming, but aren't preparing in a practical way because they have been brainwashed by a "jehovah has always protected his servants" mindset from the gb at hq (who laughingly have no reason to be concerned because they're hoping for a quick getaway up to heaven when the jw 'end of the world' comes!).

  the most the average jdub has is a go-bag rucksack in case they have to quickly leave their house in the event of a natural disaster like a flood or a wildfire.. isn't it better to be safe than sorry?

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  We have several non-jdub friends who are busy stockpiling foods and goods for the impending societal collapse. Some are happy enough to be called preppers, others are not, but say that looking at the deteriorating condition of the world that it's only a matter of time before the SHTF and they want to be prepared to protect themselves and their families when it happens.

  Contrast that to the jdubs who are actively telling people that the end of the world is coming, but aren't preparing in a practical way because they have been brainwashed by a "Jehovah has always protected his servants" mindset from the GB at HQ (who laughingly have no reason to be concerned because they're hoping for a quick getaway up to heaven when the JW 'end of the world' comes!)

  The most the average jdub has is a go-bag rucksack in case they have to quickly leave their house in the event of a natural disaster like a flood or a wildfire.

  Isn't it better to be safe than sorry? Proverbs 22:3 "The prudent see danger and take cover".

  I haven't bought it, but one of our Prepper friends recommended Ted Riley's book "When Crisis Hits Suburbia: A Modern-Day Prepping Guide to Effectively Bug in and Protect Your Family Home in a Societal Collapse." (Suburban Prepping for the Modern Family to Prepare for Any Crisis) if any of you are interested.

  https://amzn.eu/d/9iKnqYf
  
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  Chicago, Likely Many Spectators Were Running As Well.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "we believe that the early decision to shut down all in-person activities for more than two years has saved many lives,” said robert hendriks, u.s. spokesperson for jehovah’s witnesses.

  "we feel good doing this volunteer work, giving back to the community,” chicago resident paul schmidt said.. that's the jokes out of the way first!!.

  https://milwaukeecourieronline.com/index.php/2022/10/15/jehovahs-witnesses-back-at-the-chicago-marathon-for-the-first-time-in-three-years/.

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  "We believe that the early decision to shut down all in-person activities for more than two years has saved many lives,” said Robert Hendriks, U.S. spokesperson for Jehovah’s Witnesses. "We feel good doing this volunteer work, giving back to the community,” Chicago resident Paul Schmidt said.

  That's the jokes out of the way first!!

  https://milwaukeecourieronline.com/index.php/2022/10/15/jehovahs-witnesses-back-at-the-chicago-marathon-for-the-first-time-in-three-years/